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    Tony Koretz
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      When a Church Conference Arises to Appear like the Illuminati!

      My gosh it’s beyond blatant!:
      There’s a pyramid – just like all the Illuminist controlled organisations use. God doesn’t work through fear……he works through Pyramids does He? Wow……..we even have the All-Seeing Eye. The one-eye Illuminati calling card. This is unbelievably sad and shocking to me!
      A New Age rainbow along with the well known One-eyed Illuminati look. “As Above, So Below” depicted. Psychedelic and mesmerising……Is it a New Age festival, or a rock concert? No it’s a church conference!

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      #7953
      Greg
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        I really HATE, as you’ve talked about before as well as here, all this performance stuff in churches nowadays. All blacked out auditoriums where they can control the lighting / emotions / mood etc.

        All the wild dancing and music and yeah, hyping people up, projected images, disco lighting, lasers etc. Hate it all!

        If people can’t come to church and listen to a normal, non hyped, plenty of Scripture type message, without starting to get bored and want to get home after 5 minutes, or start checking their phones, then what sort of life do they live outside the walls of the church?

        The church is more like the world every day.

        Like you said, all the big churches are the same. Yeah, they may have started off right, but then they want to be like the others – to build big numbers and become well known. GRRRRR! This is not my favourite topic!

        I also don’t think (looking at their video from last year) that Maori dancing has any place in the church, either. https://www.facebook.com/ARISEchurchNZ/videos/2121382274558600/

        #7959
        Tony Koretz
        Keymaster

          It has come back to me through the grapevine that someone at Arise Church in Wellington is telling people “don’t listen to me because I have a thing against John Cameron”. Really? Before making this video I have never publicly stated anything about Arise Church. I don’t recall even having specifically mentioned John Cameron in a converstion either public or private previous to this. Certainly none that I remember anyway. So they are telling people not to listen to me on those grounds, while completely ignoring the glaring issues I raised in the video. Deflecting people from the obvious symbolism, and instead they are painting me as a malcontent or something. The truth is I had never intended to say anything specifically in public about Arise Church, until I saw probably the most blatant symbolism I have ever seen at a Christian church conference anywhere appear over the weekend. I could not ignore that. Judging by the reactions of shock from people around the world who are seeing this symbolism – I am not alone in my thoughts on it. Arise Church leadership would be better to take a hard look at what they portrayed at the conference rather than deflecting blame towards me for exposing it!

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          #7968
          Tony Koretz
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            Look at the blatantly exposed number 33 ( Scottish Rite Freemasonry’s highest degree) on the sleeve of the arm outstretched behind John Cameron here! Coincidence, or a strategic placement?

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            #7969
            Tony Koretz
            Keymaster

              Nothing to see here folks. It’s just a coincidence that there is a pyramid displaying a single eye. Oh and the rainbow..that’s nothing either

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              #7971
              Tony Koretz
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                #7973
                Greg
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                  Don’t like this one from last year either (from https://www.webstagram.one/media/BlYovlSBShr if it doesn’t show) :

                  Arise 2017

                  Yes, to us it’s pretty blatant. Maybe even the 6 lights to each side mean something?

                  Whether these people are really (started out as) wolves, or are badly misled, trying to be trendy, or the people who did the graphics etc are plants, I don’t know. But all decisions come back to the Camerons who are the leaders. So yes, maybe they’re just trying to be “cool” but maybe not. And again, why be trendy? Isn’t that the world too?

                  How many would be saying “Wow, conference this year was amazing” while showing pictures of the music / lights / graphics etc, if all that wasn’t there?

                  At best, I say it’s worldly.

                  At worst, they’re wolves, and following others, like Toby Mac, with the one eye, the pyramids…

                  It’s not going to get better in these days and where it does happen, you’re right to speak against it Tony, and even moreso if you’ve contacted people for comment and they have failed to reply (as is the case with the Michael W Smith thread).

                  #7980
                  Tony Koretz
                  Keymaster

                    Arise Conference, Wellington July 2018

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                    #7982
                    Greg
                    Participant

                      Is that a bloke or a woman in the triangle, or is it meant to look androgenous? Looks like someone who has been programmed or drugged and going along with the system or something. Certainly no joy in that person!

                      Anyway Tony, how are you doing / feeling with all this going on and the response/reaction you’ve had locally?

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                      Tony Koretz
                      Keymaster

                        Is that a bloke or a woman in the triangle, or is it meant to look androgenous? Looks like someone who has been programmed or drugged and going along with the system or something. Certainly no joy in that person!

                        Anyway Tony, how are you doing / feeling with all this going on and the response/reaction you’ve had locally?

                        I have had mostly good responses, but also the odd angry attacking one. The attacking ones attack me without actually addressing the symbolism issues. But that’s to be expected.

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                        #8017
                        Tony Koretz
                        Keymaster

                          Arise – What Sleepers are you Awakening?

                          A follow up video with more startling information about the Awake Conference held by Arise Church.

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                          #8024
                          Greg
                          Participant

                            I’m not a Facebook expert as I’ve only ever made one comment on there!

                            However, on your video, the bottom comment replying to his triangle post says about Egyptian symbolism creeping into Christianity.

                            I believe that has been removed, leaving only the comments which agree with his position.

                            If that’s the case, he won’t listen to any contrary views.

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                            Tony Koretz
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                              I am interviewed here by Mike@Onpoint Preparedness discussing the Arise Conference and more

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                              #8046
                              Tony Koretz
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                                This was just posted as a comment on one of my other recent videos by someone. I thought it says a lot!

                                OMGawsh, Im watching this after just watching your previous video about the conference and in this video you mention the conference was designed by Russell Evans, from Planetshakers. Yes Planetshakers was held in a Masonic Hall for 10 years and yes its full of this symbolism, I was called out of that church 7 years ago! Just like you mentioned God called you out of those churches in your last video. Ya know the whole time Planetshakers was held at the Masonic Hall, the church collected over $1.5 million to buy a church building with an ’empowerment’ center to assist the cities disadvantaged. All these years later and the church still doesnt own a building, still doesnt serve the disadvantaged and is now producing crap like what you detailed in the last video. I can tell you as someone called out of that church that yes there is a deeper connection between all this stuff and the Lord has led me on an in depth study of it as a result of being in that church. Get as far away from them as you possibly can. The last time I was in that church God told me to go, He said He wanted to show me something. There was film footage of different pastors playing on the big screen, edited for parts of sermons that was impacting. One pastor started saying “when Jesus comes back He is going to save legions and legions and legions of demons” but still God didnt let me leave, I then witnessed what can only be described as hypnosis with Russell ordering people to stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down etc and the Lord would not let me join in, He said ‘You move when I tell you’ – and Russell Evans had a tantrum on stage pointing at me and ordering me to stand up, but I would not move. He became quite angry at the open loss of control and refocused on those who were obeying him. There was clearly a group-think going on and it was done just before the giving time. The Lord wanted me to see all of this with fresh eyes. Also when I was there over 7 years ago they stopped doing communion for the last 5 years of my time there, they are not even pretending to meet in the name of Jesus anymore.

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                                #8047
                                Greg
                                Participant

                                  I was looking up these people and saw a site which warned about Hillsong and Planetshakers etc preaching word of faith/prosperity heresy.

                                  I just thought that’s the least of the worries about such places!

                                  Compared to the open satanic symbolism being used more and more, word of faith and prosperity gospel just seems so old now. And maybe we still “ain’t seen nothin’ yet”.

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