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  • #5001
    Anonymous

      They call it a “reading” and refer to the program as “Christalignment.” They don’t do “predictions,” but they will help empower your destiny rather than control it. Using what is essentially tarot cards, they do a “reading” about relations, jobs and issues to help people “make better decisions in the future.”

      Charismatics Now Using “Christian” Tarot Cards

      #5002
      MattS
      Senior Moderator

        Hey Joanie

        Thanks for putting this up, this just makes me mad, this is purely new age clap-trap divination with a sugar coated Christian flavour. All the usual “New Age” language here with the “christ spirit”, “higher realms”, “empowering your destiny” etc. A set of cards is required to effect this process and of course a nice lady to bring the male punters in. I took a look at the article associated with the video and found that some folk associated with none other than Bethel Redding California are in involved. Bill and Beni Johnson are the senior leaders of Bethel Redding California and Beni has been involved in some questionable practices (grave sucking or necromancy amongst other things) so it is no surprise at all that some of their associates are involved in questionable occult practices. Pulpit and Pen (the author of the original article) have noted that several videos they posted on the Bethel folk have been taken down, hmm……… wonder why that might be??

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        #5005
        Anonymous

          Matt, I seriously yawned when i saw this article and video. I have been around so long that when I saw it and learned about what they are doing, I was not surprised as in the past. These charlatans are controlled by demons. And those demons empower them to entice others to join in the lie. What a farce.

          #5011
          MattS
          Senior Moderator

            LOL, it must have upset someone Joanie as now all three videos from that article are down, lastly the one that fronted this post from the Australian woman.

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            #5021
            Anonymous

              Matt, the woman that was offended is free to be so. Just as we are to see blatant NAR carnival acts and expose it! Even though they took it all down, I still thank the Lord that for small window of time, it was exposed. Amen.

              #5026
              MattS
              Senior Moderator

                Amen to that Joanie, it has obviously caused a stir being exposed, and agreed it was great to get it out for the short time it was up. If they were unconcerned about the impact, it would have all stayed up.

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                #5058
                Tony Koretz
                Keymaster

                  CHRISTALIGNMENT CHAOS AT BETHEL CHURCH USING ‘DESTINY READING CARDS’ TO DECEIVE FOLLOWERS WITH WITCHCRAFT
                  There is a group calling themselves ‘Christalignment’ and this is where the New Age destiny reading cards come from. Bethel Church has created a “ministry” to partner with the Christalignment people called ‘Mind, Body and Spirit’. Christalignment is pro-LGBTQ, extremely New Age, and 100% occult. And the “christ’ they want to align you to is not Jesus Christ, it’s the other guy

                  THE CHARISMATICS AT BETHEL CHURCH AND ELSEWHERE HAVE COMMANDEERED THIS SATANIC PRACTICE AND SEEK TO HELP PEOPLE GAIN INSIGHT INTO THEIR LIFE FROM THESE “READINGS.”
                  “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)

                  Oh brother, where do you even begin with this one? Just when you thought that Bethel Church in Redding, California, could not squeeze in even one more demon they go and add a legion more. When I first read this story just yesterday on Pulpit & Pen, I thought no way is this true. Then I did some digging that the Pulpit people did not seem to do, and the shocking confirmation was soon in evidence.

                  Read more at http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/christalignment-bethel-church-using-satanic-destiny-reading-cards-deceive-followers-false-prophecies/

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                  #5064
                  Kara Pickering
                  Participant

                    That video seriously creeped the ever lovin’ tar out of me. I was not aware that Heidi Baker did that with her “ministry.” And when she was chanting “Give it away, give it away, give it away,” it reminded me of a Red Hot Chili Peppers song, where they chant that same phrase over and over. When you listen to this song, (or read the lyrics), it completely puts into perspective, the spirit behind this repulsive activity in the NAR. WOW!

                    Yes Tony, the creator of the video you linked above was correct. It is a Kundalini spirit. And note the serpent the eating it’s own tail on the image in the video. No doubt it is in honor of the same class of evil principalities that were worshipped at the Serpent Mound.

                    Lyrics to “Give It Away” performed by: Red Hot Chili Peppers

                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your mama
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your pappa
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your daughter
                    You do a little dance and then you drink a little water

                    What I’ve got you’ve got to get it put it in you
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to get it put it in you
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to get it put it in you
                    Reeling with the feeling don’t stop continue

                    Realize I don’t want to be a miser
                    Confide with sly you’ll be the wiser
                    Young blood is the lovin’ upriser
                    How come everybody want to keep it like the kaiser

                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    I can’t tell if I’m a kingpin or a pauper

                    Greedy little people in a sea of distress
                    Keep your more to receive your less
                    Unimpressed by material excess
                    Love is free love me say hell yes

                    I’m a low brow but I rock a little know how
                    No time for the piggies or the hoosegow
                    Get smart get down with the pow wow
                    Never been a better time than right now

                    Bob Marley poet and a prophet
                    Bob Marley taught me how to off it
                    Bob Marley walkin’ like he talk it
                    Goodness me can’t you see I’m gonna cough it

                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Lucky me swimmin’ in my ability

                    Dancin’ down on life with agility
                    Come and drink it up from my fertility
                    Blessed with a bucket of lucky mobility
                    My mom I love her ’cause she love me

                    Long gone are the times when she scrub me
                    Feelin’ good my brother gonna hug me
                    Drink my juice young love chug-a-lug me
                    There’s a river born to be a giver

                    Keep you warm won’t let you shiver
                    His heart is never gonna wither
                    Come on everybody time to deliver

                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now
                    Give it away give it away give it away now

                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your mama
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your pappa
                    What I’ve got you’ve got to give it to your daughter
                    You do a little dance and then you drink a little water

                    Songwriters: Anthony Kiedis / Chad Smith / Michael ‘Flea’ Balzary / John Frusciante
                    Give It Away lyrics © MoeBeToBlame

                    Official Video for “Give It Away”: ((Complete with a Baphomet, Serpent symbology (ribbons representing the serpent eating it’s own tail) moshing (reminds me of the convulsions they were having at the pulpits in Tony’s video link. Keep in mind this is a vulgar video!!! Watch at your own risk of future disgust and offense!))

                    #5065
                    Tony Koretz
                    Keymaster

                      That video seriously creeped the ever lovin’ tar out of me. I was not aware that Heidi Baker did that with her “ministry.” And when she was chanting “Give it away, give it away, give it away,” it reminded me of a Red Hot Chili Peppers song, where they chant that same phrase over and over. When you listen to this song, (or read the lyrics), it completely puts into perspective, the spirit behind this repulsive activity in the NAR. WOW!

                      Yes Tony, the creator of the video you linked above was correct. It is a Kundalini spirit. And note the serpent the eating it’s own tail on the image in the video. No doubt it is in honor of the same class of evil principalities that were worshipped at the Serpent Mound.

                      Yes it’s seriously creepy. How can anyone in their right mind believe this is the holy Spirit? Instead of saying “come, and more lord” they should saying “go, get out in the name of the Lord!”. It’s so demonic!

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                      #5078
                      MattS
                      Senior Moderator

                        Interesting watching Heidi’s repetitive mantra-like speech has reminded me of some of the other New Apostolic Reformation preachers, they seem to say very similar things, speak in a similar way and use repetitive phrases. Both Todd Bentley and Rodney Howard Browne come to mind for doing this also. Whether it’s copycat or training in this, I’m not sure, it may well be demonic also.

                        Some of those folk in Heidi’s video look like they are “manifesting” demonically.

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                        #5097
                        MattS
                        Senior Moderator

                          Hey Folks

                          Check out this article from Holly Pivec 0f http://www.spiritoferror.org/
                          Holly follows up on the Original article Joanie found in “Pen and Pulpit”.
                          This is very much worth a read to see how deep this stuff goes, and how the NAR folk crawl over broken glass to protect one another and the NAR movement when it suits.
                          Enjoy, as Holly gives a very detailed, thoroughly researched article which reveals how messed up this “Christian Tarot” is (let’s call it what it is). I would say that it was unbelievable if I did not know what time we are living in!

                          http://www.spiritoferror.org/2017/12/the-christian-tarot-card-controversy-at-bethel-church-in-redding-california/7409

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                          #5100
                          Dianna Bonner
                          Participant

                            I was horrified at that video with Heidi Baker that I couldn’t watch all of it. How can anyone even remotely believe that any of that is from the Holy Spirit?

                            The Christian Tarot cards – I’m just speechless. If you have to hide something you already know it’s wrong, so the fact that they’re re-wording their website tells me they know what they’re doing isn’t Biblically sound.

                            To think 3-4 weeks ago I didn’t really know much about the NAR movement, but because of this forum my knowledge has increased exponentially. This forum is an invaluable source for gaining discernment. Thank you all so much!

                            #5104
                            MattS
                            Senior Moderator

                              Dianna, you are so welcome.

                              I’m very grateful that you are getting some good learning from all this. I know the AMTM team always hope that folks will read the things we post (and all the other Forum users that post great info as well) and become aware of all the deception that is now really ramping up out there. Thank you for your encouragement and comments in this regard, it really does mean a lot to us all, and keeps us going.

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                              #5249
                              Angela Georgantas
                              Participant

                                I’m a firm believer that God arms us with the knowledge we need if we are walking with Him. A few years ago, I came across a post that talked about the terrible deception of The Church of the Almighty God, also known as Eastern Lightning. It’s a cult that believes that Jesus is in the flesh on earth right now in the form of a Chinese woman. It was an interesting article, and I filed the info away. This past year, a lady contacted me in the guise of a believer on Twitter. She sent me a music video, and when I watched it, it was SO creepy. It was like a Chinese propaganda video about how HAPPY people would be if they would get involved with this group. It was put out by the Church of the Almighty God. Bingo! Not only did I know to stay away from this person, I know exactly how to pray for her. I blocked her when she did that whole false prophet, “Be careful of blaspheming the Holy Spirit” thing, but I have been continuing my prayers for this woman. If we are getting all studied up on NAR, there is a good chance at least some of us will need it.

                                #5254
                                MattS
                                Senior Moderator

                                  I’m a firm believer that God arms us with the knowledge we need if we are walking with Him. A few years ago, I came across a post that talked about the terrible deception of The Church of the Almighty God, also known as Eastern Lightning. It’s a cult that believes that Jesus is in the flesh on earth right now in the form of a Chinese woman. It was an interesting article, and I filed the info away. This past year, a lady contacted me in the guise of a believer on Twitter. She sent me a music video, and when I watched it, it was SO creepy. It was like a Chinese propaganda video about how HAPPY people would be if they would get involved with this group. It was put out by the Church of the Almighty God. Bingo! Not only did I know to stay away from this person, I know exactly how to pray for her. I blocked her when she did that whole false prophet, “Be careful of blaspheming the Holy Spirit” thing, but I have been continuing my prayers for this woman. If we are getting all studied up on NAR, there is a good chance at least some of us will need it.

                                  Thanks for posting this Angela.

                                  John Little of Omegashock posted something on this a few months ago (from memory) There are so many false teachings and false gospels coming in now, it is like a flood. This seems to lend itself to “the apostasy” or “great falling away” (from the faith) of 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

                                  Great that you have become aware of this and are posting it to warn others, really appreciate it.

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